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 Post subject: Re: Potentially buying 06 Subaru Legacy GT ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:45 pm 
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So, now I need:
- Torque specs (Head, cams, harmonic balancer, anything else that matters)
- Head gasket set
- 1 valve (all the rest appear good. Is it ok to leave them?)
- Timing belt & water pump kit (it was done 40K miles ago....but I don't think they replaced the pulleys, and I'm not convinced that the water pump is new either. It may be in my best interest to do it amirite?)
- Torque converter seal (It slid out with the engine and I now fear it leaking, so I'm grabbing a new seal while it's easy to access. Also Auto FTL. thx)
- Head bolts? (Dealers reuse them, I don't see why I shouldn't do the same.)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:13 pm 
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ATTN Subie Experts: I'm very torn on whether to replace all 8 exhaust valves or not. I'm now thinking that if the valve clearance is within spec, I shouldn't touch them. What do you guys think?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:39 pm 
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I'd replace them all, including intake, but that's just me.
Would let you sleep better knowing every valve seals perfectly.

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-If the head bolts don't show any signs of stretching I'd reuse them.
-Did the torque converter just slide out of the trans fairly gently? If so I would just set it back in and go most likely. If you want absolute peace of mind you can just replace it.
-I can get you all of those torque specs no problem.
-as for the valves, is there a mark on the piston where a valve hit, or did something pass through the cylinder. Or did the valve melt/burn? Or did it fail due to quality of the material? I would probably upgrade the valves to something stainless or more durable metal.
-I would replace waterpump or pulleys that are questionable. I know when some dealers do t-belt packages they don't usually quote a waterpump, pulleys, tensioners ect. I also figure if your keeping it I'd replace the belt anyway. 40k is close to half of the belts recomended usefull life. If your keeping it, it'd be silly not to IMO. Glad to see you are making progress with this. You'll enjoy boosted 2.5l.

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- The torque converter slid out fairly gently, but I'm still scared, and the seal is cheap online. Hopefully its cheap at the local dealer too.
- The valve definitely burned. It's common on these engines from what I have read.
- I'm now leaning towards replacing all 8 exhaust valves.
- Yeap, I suppose I will do a complete timing belt & WP kit.

I hate spending the money on this stuff but you guys are right, if I do end up keeping it, I will be glad that I did get all of this stuff done.

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Do it right first time, or pull the engine again the next time.
It's down to how much your time is worth.

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Both heads rebuilt today. Hopefully I can get them bolted on tomorrow! WOoOo!

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So when do I drive to MA and tune this beast?

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Haha. First I need to decide if I am keeping it.

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Did a lot of reassembling over the weekend, including dropping the engine back in. Unfortunately the upper end gasket set I bought had the wrong cam seals in it. It's also odd that every auto part store I called over the weekend listed the same ones. So, I'm calling Subaru today to sort it out and get the right ones. I really hope I don't have to pay a lot of money for them through the dealer.

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Got cam seals, installed them, and installed the timing belt. Next up - all the accessories.


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Sweet! It'll be running in no time! How much time do you have in it so far?

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Honestly, I have a LOT of time invested in this thing, but it was all very nonchalant, shootin'-the-crap-with-my-friends, sorta time. Added up, I bet I'll be at like 25 hours of actual mechanical work. That doesn't include my (many) research hours on the computer :) That being said, I know that I could do it in half the time if I were to do it again, and I learned HUGE amounts about Subarus and their engines in the past 20 days. I would take on nearly any Subaru project at this point without hesitation. I can say that I thoroughly understand the inner workings of the engine now, which I am sort of proud of.

Total parts investment at this point is somewhere around $400. I will add it up at the end and see where I am at though.

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TADA! She runs! It started up first try and runs smooth! The only issue was that I forgot to plug in 1 cam sensor. Oopsy.

Tomorrow I will likely take it for a spin around the block and decide if I like it or not. Woo Woo!

Thank you guys for the help!

-Jeremy

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Congrats Jeremy! I bet you'll love it.

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