Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

Post by John B » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:45 am

Oh, I found a bunch using car-part.com and searching for master cylinders :p.

I paided 75 shipped for mine. I think they might have sent me all of the pedal lol. I havn't got it yet but should be the end of the week.
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

Post by aesop » Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:42 pm

The 5 speed Montero Sports came with a hydraulic transmission their just rare. If anyone wants one there is a 1998 Montero Sport with a manual transmission at the pull a part in Winston Salem, NC.
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Post by LSR Mike » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:56 pm

And I just drove thru there yesterday, Damn...
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Post by 4g63mightymax » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:51 pm

Would a 98 really be similar? Sounds crazy to me. Got pics of one?
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

Post by aesop » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:07 am

I didnt take pictures of the transmission but the Montero has a 4G64, its similar to the 4G64 found in the 94'-98' Galant. Except the distributor is attached to the cam gear and you guys might be interested in the water pump piping.

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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

Post by jdes9924 » Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:26 am

What kind of trouble would I have to go to to get a 4g63t bolted to a Vtmt1? I have an 89' Dodge raider and my 6g72 is tired and worn, needs to be replaced before she died on her own. I dont mind the 6g72 but I wouldnt mind building a 4g63t. Just getting into Mitsubishi. Came from euroland and will never go back.

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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

Post by Gentleman Rogue » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:13 pm

so i need some help. my idea for modifying the stock clutch pedal to engage my clutch master cylinder turned out to be a twisted floppy failure- especially with my 2600 pressure plate. so now i need to figure out something to do, and on the quick if possible(i'm moving August 1st and won't have a garage to work in for months.). it seems the diesel clutch pedal would be the best option, but i'm guessing the chances of finding one are virtually nil. is the V6/5 speed pedal the same as the diesel one? i'm wondering if that might be ANY easier to find.

i've also been thinking about trying to use the clutch pedal from other vehicles that might work. first gen S10's used hydraulic clutch; i'm wondering if the pedal is off isolated on its own like the Ram50's? what about Starquests? is the clutch pedal separate, or in the same ganged bunch like the truck?

i'll be going to the junkyard tomorrow to look around, but just seeing if anyone had any suggestions so far.
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Post by 300D50 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:52 pm

Get the clutch pedal and res from a 97 to 01 Hyundai Tiburon or Elantra.

It should be easy as hell ro hoox up, since it's a near rip of the Mitsubishi designs.
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

Post by Gentleman Rogue » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:52 pm

i guess i'm just wondering what clutch pedals would "kindof" bolt in to my truck; would a 5 speed truck with the V6 have the hydraulic clutch? is it the same clutch pedal as the diesel 5 speed? would a 5 speed Montero or Raider have the hydraulic clutch?
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

Post by 300D50 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:00 am

5 speed V5MT1 montero/raider with a 6G72 will have a hydro clutch, same with the D50/max.

I think the V6 clutch is different than the diesel one, but they should bolt-in easy enough.

You will have to punch the hole in the firewall though, when I did it on my car I used a greenlee electricians knock-out set.
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

Post by 4g63mightymax » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:28 am

I have the diesel one in my truck, but I was always told that the V6 Ram 50 had the same pedal setup. It also looks quite similar from what I have seen in pictures. The one from a montero is definitely different than the ram 50. I found one in a junkyard, and checked it out with my own eyes. I don't remember if it looked easy to modify for our trucks or not.

The diesel clutch pedal is a separate unit from the brake pedal. It also requires a bracket to be made if you install it in a 4 cyl truck. I have pictures of it either in this thread or my build thread, I forget. Check eBay for clutch pedals, when I was looking, there were many on there. Also, would it be possible for you to just make a clutch pedal bracket? It's relatively simple in design.
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

Post by Gentleman Rogue » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:43 am

At this point I'm starting to wonder about getting a wilwood one if I could chop and extend the cast aluminum pedal to mimic the shape of the diesel one. I'm going to talk to my fabricator friend today and see what he has to say about it.
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Post by 4g63mightymax » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:28 am

I'm almost wondering if there is a market for them, if somebody here were to create a few of them and sell them. The only challenging thing that I can see would be coming up with the spring. Heck, a custom one could even have some type of reinforcing to prevent firewall flex too. Hmmm. An interesting concept.
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

Post by Gentleman Rogue » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:21 pm

Jeremy, if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for your clutch pedal? I've found ONE yard so far with a V6/5speed truck, and they want around $170 shipped for it. Pretty hard to swollow when I could get a Wilwood piece for probably $100 less...
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Re: Hydraulic Clutch Swap Info

Post by 4g63mightymax » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:33 pm

Wow, that is crazy.

I actually got the clutch pedal, clutch master cylinder, clutch hose, slave cylinder, clutch fork, and a section of the diesel transmission's bell housing (to hold the slave cylinder) all in trade for a nice EGT gauge/sensor + shipping.

Have you made a post on the mightyram 50 to see if anybody has one?

OH, also - Mazda's! The B-series trucks! They have a different clutch pedal setup, but I bet it could be modified to fit our trucks. It could also be bought cheap at any junkyard I bet. Their firewalls are similar to ours, but not identical. Look into those too!
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